The "If Things Went Your Way" Game
01-23-2012, 11:37 AM
#21
we dont lend money, we lend 1s and 0s.
but yes, we give out a ---- ton of cash. we should only give out cash to countries to people who vote against us in the UN...after we get it off our soil.
but yes, we give out a ---- ton of cash. we should only give out cash to countries to people who vote against us in the UN...after we get it off our soil.
01-23-2012, 12:18 PM
#22
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tax you like Canadians.
kill immigration of the illegal kind.
increase fire arms licensing costs (lol)
tax imports
stop lending money to other countries who will never pay it back.
kill all unions
roll deep in my air force one wearing my air force ones... holla
kill immigration of the illegal kind.
increase fire arms licensing costs (lol)
tax imports
stop lending money to other countries who will never pay it back.
kill all unions
roll deep in my air force one wearing my air force ones... holla
Working in IT the last 5 years has taught me a few things. You go to work, do your job, and if you want a promotion you find another job. The American dream of finding a career at one company for the next 30 years of you're life is a joke. That does not happen any more. American's get entirely too cozy spending 10-15 years working for the same employer. Then when all of a sudden they find themselves out of a job they go batsh*t crazy cause they've forgotten how to market themselves and get out there and find a new job. That's how the economy tanks cause you get all these unemployed people who can't find other jobs and have to rely on my tax money. Really... IMHO if you want a job nowadays that you wanna be at the same spot for the next 30+ years of you're life you start you're own business and be you're own boss.
Last edited by Mazduh; 01-23-2012 at 12:22 PM.
01-23-2012, 12:29 PM
#23
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Union people tend to be fucktarded. Not all, just many. Every union worker I have met to some degree has a story about how in the real world they would have lost their job but since they are in the union they have gotten off:
boozing at work
stealing at work
smoking weed at work
not doing any work at work
getting fired at work to be rehired at work.
i mean, its laughable. One of my buddies used to be a Manager at CanadaPost dealing with union turds. He's told me stories of theft of mail, mailmen keeping all their route mail in their basements for years until caught and mailmen dumping mail in dumpsters. In the end, written up but never fired, even on the theft stuff. He always found it discouraging.
My wife has been at her job 15 years. There was a time when she knew the owners, they said hello hey and hooray and all that jazz. They were bought out and now she would tell you she is nothing more than a number and no one cares. There is no keeping jobs forever anymore though she is the one person i know doing a great job at it.
Really, i have no idea how to fix the USA, not sure how to fix Canada either. I dont vote so I cant complain. I have never felt my vote would mean anything. I always thought that if you wanted to change the government you would need to overthrow it with arms and military. THEN you can make change. But obs I am not going to be that guy to do something so drastic, instead, i pay my taxes and cry about how high they are.
Immigration is killing Canada. 100 refugees a day through terminal 1 alone at pearson. Then we are part of that UN thing where we just take them in. We let criminals in etc. We can't fix that problem. Refugee or landed, they all get welfare if they want it. Canada is broken too.
boozing at work
stealing at work
smoking weed at work
not doing any work at work
getting fired at work to be rehired at work.
i mean, its laughable. One of my buddies used to be a Manager at CanadaPost dealing with union turds. He's told me stories of theft of mail, mailmen keeping all their route mail in their basements for years until caught and mailmen dumping mail in dumpsters. In the end, written up but never fired, even on the theft stuff. He always found it discouraging.
My wife has been at her job 15 years. There was a time when she knew the owners, they said hello hey and hooray and all that jazz. They were bought out and now she would tell you she is nothing more than a number and no one cares. There is no keeping jobs forever anymore though she is the one person i know doing a great job at it.
Really, i have no idea how to fix the USA, not sure how to fix Canada either. I dont vote so I cant complain. I have never felt my vote would mean anything. I always thought that if you wanted to change the government you would need to overthrow it with arms and military. THEN you can make change. But obs I am not going to be that guy to do something so drastic, instead, i pay my taxes and cry about how high they are.
Immigration is killing Canada. 100 refugees a day through terminal 1 alone at pearson. Then we are part of that UN thing where we just take them in. We let criminals in etc. We can't fix that problem. Refugee or landed, they all get welfare if they want it. Canada is broken too.
01-23-2012, 12:37 PM
#24
At least Canada cut/capped gov't spending for a while, and they benefited greatly from it.
Real American wages have remained stagnant for many years, but it is because we have had a lot of inflation, which gives the illusion of economic growth.
If we actually had a growing economy, then the increased productivity of people would have contributed to rising wages. It has nothing to do with a lack of labor unions. We have replaced American labor with foreign labor. Workers aren't benefiting from economic growth in America because that growth doesn't exist.
Labor unions are one of the reasons that American businesses can't stay competitive and therefore have to look overseas in order to find labor. If we were actually giving better tools to workers here, then they would be more productive. It's not that we are producing more with less; we are producing less with less.
The extra productivity that American businesses are getting is from firing American workers and hiring foreign workers. The extra automated machines and components are being manufactured overseas.
Another factor is the huge deficit that is a burden on American workers. That capital is taken out of the private sector, so Americans are forced to pay for it. Many of them are only able to do this is by taking on more and more debt.
Rising wages isn't what we need to worry about, anyway. They rising wages are only from inflation. What is important is the purchasing power of those wages. For 100 years during the industrial revolution.,. wages stayed the same, but the prices of goods consistently dropped during that entire period. That is what happens with sound money and more productivity.
Demand is always there. That is a basic law of economics. What is important is the supply of goods, which is a function of productivity. It makes sense that increased wages should accompany increased productivity. But what if that productivity is all an illusion.
Public sector workers make twice as much as a private sector employee when you factor in benefits. Healthcare benefits and retirement benefits must be factored in, and private sector employees must pay for this.
Our healthcare system is a disaster because of all the government involvement. Our system would be much better and cheaper if we didn't have all these regulations and taxes. We don't have a free market in healthcare here and we haven't for a long time.
If we actually had a growing economy, then the increased productivity of people would have contributed to rising wages. It has nothing to do with a lack of labor unions. We have replaced American labor with foreign labor. Workers aren't benefiting from economic growth in America because that growth doesn't exist.
Labor unions are one of the reasons that American businesses can't stay competitive and therefore have to look overseas in order to find labor. If we were actually giving better tools to workers here, then they would be more productive. It's not that we are producing more with less; we are producing less with less.
The extra productivity that American businesses are getting is from firing American workers and hiring foreign workers. The extra automated machines and components are being manufactured overseas.
Another factor is the huge deficit that is a burden on American workers. That capital is taken out of the private sector, so Americans are forced to pay for it. Many of them are only able to do this is by taking on more and more debt.
Rising wages isn't what we need to worry about, anyway. They rising wages are only from inflation. What is important is the purchasing power of those wages. For 100 years during the industrial revolution.,. wages stayed the same, but the prices of goods consistently dropped during that entire period. That is what happens with sound money and more productivity.
Demand is always there. That is a basic law of economics. What is important is the supply of goods, which is a function of productivity. It makes sense that increased wages should accompany increased productivity. But what if that productivity is all an illusion.
Public sector workers make twice as much as a private sector employee when you factor in benefits. Healthcare benefits and retirement benefits must be factored in, and private sector employees must pay for this.
Our healthcare system is a disaster because of all the government involvement. Our system would be much better and cheaper if we didn't have all these regulations and taxes. We don't have a free market in healthcare here and we haven't for a long time.
01-23-2012, 02:04 PM
#25
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http://www.factcheck.org/taxes/unspi...e_fairtax.html
Sorry bro, but the facts don't agree with you.
How much do you really know about the Fairtax? Even factoring in the prebate, it's an enormously regressive tax. Only extreme right wing think tanks argue otherwise.
Sorry bro, but the facts don't agree with you.
We stand behind our earlier analysis of the FairTax. The proposal to which Gov. Huckabee referred is not a 23 percent tax, but rather a 30 percent tax. And it is revenue-neutral only through an accounting trick. It will collect more money from those earning between $15,000 and $200,000 per year and less from those earning more than $200,000 per year. It is possible that the FairTax would make most people better off, but much of that gain would be a direct result of making the tax code less fair.
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01-23-2012, 09:33 PM
#26
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I agree that the dream of a 9-5 office job at one place until retirement is dead, but if your willing to put in hard work, the dream is alive and pays really well. The American dream term was coined when we were a nation of industry, so it's not surprising that it doesn't translate into desk work. It's very difficult to maintain high wages for an extended period if you don't produce tangible product.
These industries are hiring like crazy, but we can't find enough people to fill positions because everyone wants to work a desk job. If you mention Power Plant, Railroad, or Oil Field, they run like hell.
01-24-2012, 10:52 PM
#28
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Compromise, find balance, quit nation building and focus on using the folks in this country to fix this country.
And make damned sure what you set out to do is done, with oversight and consequence that will amount to more than just a lateral shift.
Oh yeah, get that book of fairy tales out of the reach of the fools who think they're doing something by legislating morality in the name of god, I think it would be a fair assumption that if there actually is one some lighting bolts would be raining down in some fairly obvious places so lets cut the bullshit and start working on real issues instead of just standing around stroking collective dick while the barn burns...
And make damned sure what you set out to do is done, with oversight and consequence that will amount to more than just a lateral shift.
Oh yeah, get that book of fairy tales out of the reach of the fools who think they're doing something by legislating morality in the name of god, I think it would be a fair assumption that if there actually is one some lighting bolts would be raining down in some fairly obvious places so lets cut the bullshit and start working on real issues instead of just standing around stroking collective dick while the barn burns...