Twin Turbo Monster Miata
Currently finishing my Monster Miata Build and will be trying to Twin Turbo it this year as well. Looking at either Doing t3 .50/.57 trim turbos or t3/t4 around the same AR. Will be posting Pictures soon. Will be running on MS II as they have a Mustang kit pre-made. I think I would rather run the MS III kit but it may be more difficult to set up and run.
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I think Braineak has done a few MSIII kits and I don't think he said they were any more difficult unless you count setting up additional features.
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Six, do be sure to create a build thread. i am intrigued by the prospects.
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there's nothing more difficuilt to ms3. in fact it's techincally easier in regards to ms2.
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Have you considered doing a rear mount turbo setup? You would save considerable space. In my mind it would be easier to work on/maintain also. http://ststurbo.com/ Plenty of other resources out there.
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Originally Posted by VRoy
(Post 6980)
Have you considered doing a rear mount turbo setup? You would save considerable space. In my mind it would be easier to work on/maintain also. http://ststurbo.com/ Plenty of other resources out there.
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Originally Posted by bigx5murf
(Post 6981)
I don't trust those... splash cold water on hot turbo seems like bad idea
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I can see how that could possibly be a issue. Although I would go more the route of this guy http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/nis...ak-part-1.html who placed it inside the rear of the car. The way I see it, the Miata's trunk would be perfect for this.
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I dunno... I guess you could argue that the exhaust gets hot... But something about having two hot turbos sitting right near my gas tank doesn't sit well with me. ;)
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Originally Posted by Mazduh
(Post 6991)
I dunno... I guess you could argue that the exhaust gets hot... But something about having two hot turbos sitting right near my gas tank doesn't sit well with me. ;)
Originally Posted by VRoy
(Post 6988)
I can see how that could possibly be a issue. Although I would go more the route of this guy http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/nis...ak-part-1.html who placed it inside the rear of the car. The way I see it, the Miata's trunk would be perfect for this.
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I wasn't aware of that. I spent most of my time talking to Ken from http://fatmanracing.com/, who built the car. Although I still stand by my recommendation, for the simple fact I've yet to see it done on a v8 miata. :D
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if i had the money, a twin turbo 347 stroker would be in my future.
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I wouldn't go stroker for a lightweight car like the Miata. A longer stroke engine, by design, won't safely rev as high as a shorter stroke engine and revving high is part of what makes a light chassis fun to me. A long stroke engine will make more torque down low than a shorter stroke engine of the same displacement, all other things equal, but the shorter stroke engine would make more peak horsepower because it will make more torque in the higher RPMs. A torquey engine in a light car is likely to lose traction off the line as opposed to having it build quickly as the car accelerates and revs. I've had both and it is, of course, a matter of personal preference.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 7031)
I wouldn't go stroker for a lightweight car like the Miata. A longer stroke engine, by design, won't safely rev as high as a shorter stroke engine and revving high is part of what makes a light chassis fun to me. A long stroke engine will make more torque down low than a shorter stroke engine of the same displacement, all other things equal, but the shorter stroke engine would make more peak horsepower because it will make more torque in the higher RPMs. A torquey engine in a light car is likely to lose traction off the line as opposed to having it build quickly as the car accelerates and revs. I've had both and it is, of course, a matter of personal preference.
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Originally Posted by RedTurboMiata
(Post 7038)
I like the lower torque band because, i get a little uneasy whenever i get near 6-8k rpm. I also grew up around old ford 427's and 302's where 8k rpm is almost certain death. i havnt lost that programing in the back of my head saying "shift damn it" at like 5000rpm :sad2:
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Originally Posted by VRoy
(Post 7026)
I wasn't aware of that. I spent most of my time talking to Ken from http://fatmanracing.com/, who built the car. Although I still stand by my recommendation, for the simple fact I've yet to see it done on a v8 miata. :D
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just for the record this is what i imagine when i think twin turbo 5.0 miata. enjoy
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cars are easier to drive when you don't purposely lose traction. and lol at one hand driving.
I've driven a 500rwhp mustang...its was controllable. |
Originally Posted by MF-Brain
(Post 7285)
cars are easier to drive when you don't purposely lose traction. and lol at one hand driving.
I've driven a 500rwhp mustang...its was controllable. |
There are several 500hp monster miata's currently on the road. That guy is a fool and needs better tires and needs to tie that thing down. As well at the end of the vid they show the burn outs with one tire spinning like crazy and not hooking. A good LSD and tire/stabilizers would help. Suspension soforth.
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Originally Posted by MF-Brain
(Post 7285)
cars are easier to drive when you don't purposely lose traction. and lol at one hand driving.
I've driven a 500rwhp mustang...its was controllable. Traction control and a slick make a big difference. When I put down 660 on a Goodyear 17" it was like skating in my fox..... It made the driving experience garbage & unless I was doing pulls on the highway the car was not that much fun. Traction control, a good tire and suspension makes life easy. I think TT in a Monster Miata is a great idea, but more importantly IMO would be a tuned suspension to handle any real horse power. I really like the idea of the s2000 Motor. They love to rev and take boost pretty good. |
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