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jtpaintballwdp 04-10-2012 01:35 PM

Hmm yeah I remember where it was when I had my stock greddy.

:scratches head:

RedTurboMiata 04-10-2012 01:37 PM

yea and like i said it worked perfict yesterday, and then this morning it just said ---- you. if the sensor went out i would be pissed, it has like 500 miles on it.

MF-Brain 04-10-2012 01:40 PM

i have two spare 4.2 sensors....sorry you got an oddball.


Utilizing the latest Bosch wideband O2 sensor -5 wire heated LSU 4.9 (Prosport Inc. is the only one in the USA to use them) our gauge now has the widest range 10.0:1 to 20.0:1 AFR readings on the planet.

fwiw, 10-20:1 AFR is not the widest range. the lc-1 is 7.35-22.39:1

jtpaintballwdp 04-10-2012 01:41 PM

Yeah I had shitty luck with prosport sensors in the past, but since they are using a Bosch sensor in the WBs... I mean I guess its possible it went out but I would think highly unlikely.

RedTurboMiata 04-10-2012 01:41 PM

its alright im always the odd one. :sad2:

jtpaintballwdp 04-10-2012 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by MF-Brain (Post 15487)
i have two spare 4.2 sensors....sorry you got an oddball.




fwiw, 10-20:1 AFR is not the widest range. the lc-1 is 7.35-22.39:1

Yeah I saw that on their site (My AEM UEGO also reads 10-20:1)

RedTurboMiata 04-10-2012 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by MF-Brain (Post 15487)
i have two spare 4.2 sensors....sorry you got an oddball.




fwiw, 10-20:1 AFR is not the widest range. the lc-1 is 7.35-22.39:1

i bought the thing becuse renown was running a sale, and i liked the look of guage.

MF-Brain 04-10-2012 01:50 PM

im just being a critical ass.

RedTurboMiata 04-10-2012 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by MF-Brain (Post 15492)
im just being a critical ass.

its necissary some times.
yea, they asked for the invoice, and all renown sent me was a PP receipt. so i sent them that and haven't heard anything back from them yet. first few emails got a response within 2-4min this one is going on 20. im about to be a super happy customer on the phone line. :mad:

RedTurboMiata 04-16-2012 08:54 PM

well i sent the sensor and controller back to prosport for them to test. if they say its going to cost x to replace a part. im probably going to get a lc1

MF-Brain 04-17-2012 08:08 AM

there's a cheap one for sale on mt.net, but no gauge.


if i wasnt so lazy to install my mtx-l, id sell you my lc-1 with a brand new wbo2 and the red db gauge.

RedTurboMiata 04-17-2012 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by MF-Brain (Post 15735)
there's a cheap one for sale on mt.net, but no gauge.


if i wasnt so lazy to install my mtx-l, id sell you my lc-1 with a brand new wbo2 and the red db gauge.

its alright we are all lazy. but seriously if they dont replace it for free im going to motivate you with some $.

On a side note, i havent driven it at all since it ---- out. my tune was rock solid is it safe ( but not ideal) to drive for a day or so. My danger ranger is shitting a front hub, and it sounds like im ridding on like 45 super swappers going down the road. :bang:
Ps. not trying to blow it up obviously.

RedTurboMiata 04-27-2012 01:34 PM

So it takes them a week and a half to test the wideband, everything checks out ok. :confused:get it back 3 days later, (yesterday) plug it in, still no go :mad: double and triple check everything. i have it grounded to the block and am spraying starting fluid near it to make it read, and once in a while it does and then says ---- you and goes back to not doing ----. :vash: at that point i call in, they answer and i talk to them for a bit, and they say send it all back in and we can check it all and have it back within a few weeks. i decline and hang up, i dont have like 3 weeks for the car to be down, so i tear into the harness between the o2 and the controller, its all good, decide ---- it i voided the warranty doing that anyway i removed the connector from the 02 to the harness from the equation, still doing what it was doing (a bit of work then back to nothing) :squintfinger: im so done with this wideband, its just one thing after another with it. i sent it back the day i installed it because it didnt work on arrival. the evo boost gauge has had 0 problems. ---- prosport im taking my business as far away from them as possible. :pissed:
End rant

MF-Brain 04-27-2012 02:37 PM

what are the wires off it like?

where exactly are you wiring to. be specific as possible.

RedTurboMiata 04-27-2012 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by MF-Brain (Post 16134)
what are the wires off it like?

where exactly are you wiring to. be specific as possible.

I took the wiring piece by piece and basically hard wired the o2 sensor to the harness out of the controller.
im to the point where im not even wanting to fix it im about to just buy a different one

RedTurboMiata 04-27-2012 02:47 PM

Brain, Does AEM work well with ms1 more specifically this
http://columbus.craigslist.org/pts/2947576751.html

MF-Brain 04-27-2012 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by RedTurboMiata (Post 16136)
I took the wiring piece by piece and basically hard wired the o2 sensor to the harness out of the controller.
im to the point where im not even wanting to fix it im about to just buy a different one

this was not specific.


i want like:

controller has 4 wires:

red- 12v
black - ground
yellow - 0-5v output
blue - heater ground

i put the red up my ass.
the black on my dick
the yellow in the ms
and the blue i left unplugged....

RedTurboMiata 04-27-2012 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by MF-Brain (Post 16138)
this was not specific.


i want like:

controller has 4 wires:

red- 12v
black - ground
yellow - 0-5v output
blue - heater ground

i put the red up my ass.
the black on my dick
the yellow in the ms
and the blue i left unplugged....

prosport didnt have a wiring diagram for comparing their harness to the o2, so i really had no clue what went to what. i compared pins to and wiring position and made it happen. its a 6wire harness from the controller to the o2, the o2 has 5 wires and a resistance board using the 6th.

And repeat of this

Brain, Do AEM widebands work well with ms1 more specifically this one
http://columbus.craigslist.org/pts/2947576751.html

RedTurboMiata 04-27-2012 03:24 PM

buying an lc1 off a local friend, not messing with that pos anymore.

MF-Brain 04-27-2012 06:10 PM

give it to me. ill make it work and rub it in face.

RedTurboMiata 04-27-2012 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by MF-Brain (Post 16157)
give it to me. ill make it work and rub it in face.

it truley is a pos though, its really not even worth your time.

MF-Brain 04-28-2012 11:00 AM

i have a mtx-l in a box...youre right.

RedTurboMiata 04-28-2012 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by MF-Brain (Post 16167)
i have a mtx-l in a box...youre right.

you need to install that thing, ik you have to get un lazy for that. :sad2:

MF-Brain 04-28-2012 12:08 PM

bigger fish to fry right now.

RedTurboMiata 07-01-2012 08:24 PM

so brain i replaced the clutch switch, mine was broken in full depressed postion. and it fixed the issues with cold idle, but still no go on luanch, netural saftey switch is unpluged. i set the tps trigger to about 20% of throtle, and 2500rpm to 3000rpm, it doesnt even show the luanch activating in the little box.


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