steering ratios
so, for future reference. i'd like to change steering gear ratios so i'm not turning the wheel 1.5 revolutions for full tilt.
who's got info on this? how do you go about it? pre-built rack? just change the gear on the steering shaft? mix match parts from other cars? i have a 1990 eunos miata with power steering (would also like to go full manual) |
Just curious and for clarification, what are you looking for? Faster or slower turn to lock?
I do believe there are two racks that are different. From what I recall the OEM unpowered rack had a quicker ratio then the powered. (BTW there is one for sale here). There was also the MSM. I don't think it had a faster|slower ratio, but it limited the amount of rotation. Hopefully someone will correct me of I'm wrong. |
The power steering rack has a faster ratio. The manual has a slower one.
I don't know of anyone actually changing the gears to get a different ratio. |
I have read on m.net somewhere that people tried to use the steering racks out of caterhams/lotus sevens/westefields/etc., but no success stories.
Not a topic I have searched into too much, but you certainly could check it out if you really are interested. |
i don't have the time to spend hours and hours and hours researching. i used to. then i got bored and bought a bunch of cars to work on.
was just wondering if there was any common knowledge about the subject. My buddy made this whole racing unit contraption for his forza wheel. (it's like being at an arcade but your sitting in a real sparco) so, you can play around with steering ratios and stuff so my brain just starting wondering if i could do it for real on my car. |
I doubt you really need any more or less steering than that. Its actually just perfect for the track, I have yet to really see a need for different rates than the power steering rack. maybe a 13:1 would be nice, but that's about it.
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The only thing that really happens is people depower the power rack to have manual steering and keep the faster ratio. Other than that... not anything common.
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That's what I will be doing soon. I'm sure I'll screw it up, but that's why I have two racks.
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I have a third for you if you mess up the first two lol
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alright. i guess thats my option. thanks :)
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There are several people that have done this in one fashion or another and wrote about it. FM has the basic instructions. The one thing FM doesn't do, that I will be doing is having my input shaft welded.
http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/depower.php?x=1 |
whats the advantage there?
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Originally Posted by eppic
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whats the advantage there?
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AND, no power steering pump in the way of your future awesome sauce turbo that you are still dreaming about.
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No what's the advantage of welding the input shaft that fm doesn't?
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The way a few folks have described is a more direct response. The input shaft has a spring and a little give to work with the power steering. When depowering and looking for instant turn in, you weld the shaft. Otherwise, as I understand, you will have a small amount of play and or delay.
I'm still waiting on my spare rack to begin this work or I would have better information. |
yep, Adam pretty much explained it all. We have a how-to on welding the input shaft btw. its by Ari, one of our sponsored drivers.
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well, i'm glad i have a parts car. one day i'll start playing.
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