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Dirtyturbo 02-19-2012 02:44 PM

Just joined.. my dirty turbo beater
 
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So here it is.. got less than $4500 into the car including what i paid for it. Mods: ebay turbo kit with 20g turbo(blown up, new 16g will be here this week) Hard dog bar, fmic, obx fmu, turbonetics bov, custom bent ic piping done be me at work on the bender, full 2 1/2 in custom bent by me exhaust, obx dp, azenis on some stock wheels and dirty flat black hardtop and hood. Running 7psi on my blowed up turbo once the new one gets here and my msd box arrives up to 15psi we go!

https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1329684246

MF-Brain 02-19-2012 03:18 PM

blowd up!

Track 02-19-2012 03:25 PM

Welcome to the site Brandon. Perhaps you will get a chance at a feature someday.

Lots and lots of turbo knowledge on here and MT, so read up and I am sure you can find a few ways to get a bit more juice out of your setup.

RedTurboMiata 02-19-2012 06:57 PM

welcome to the site, i didnt see much about ecu, and if your talking about the msd timing retard box, dont even bother putting it on did not notice it when it was installed on mine. just save yourself a headache and go full standalone ecu

Mazduh 02-19-2012 09:16 PM

Welcome! More pics please!

Schadenfreude 02-19-2012 09:32 PM

in for more pics! yay we need moar members MOAR.

thirdgen 02-19-2012 09:41 PM

I like everything about your car except the MSD box...throw it in the trash where it belongs. Get a MSPNP and don't look back.

Dirtyturbo 02-20-2012 05:54 PM

Msd box is fine... this isnt my first turbo miata build... if yall didnt notice this build is on the cheap, im not gona put a $1000 ecu on a car i paid $2000 for. I may in the future get an ecu as the build progresses. I got a second motor im building and when its ready ill prolly find a cleaner shell and really build a nice car, but thats a lil way off in the future. This is a dirty beater(short nose crank btw lol!). Its gona have a dirt tune and im gona blow it up eventually and it will then be my extra parts car. However for now msd box is going in. I just want something so i dont have to retard the timing like 10* to run 15psi and lose all off boost power.(Sorry but negativity like that is precisely why i havent been on any forums for years)

Anyhow thanks for the support... Pix will come once the new turbo is in and i get my steelie all season wheel/tires off. Should be within a week or so... Ill keep you posted :)

oh forgot in original post also has a walboro 255lph pump.

Dirtyturbo 02-20-2012 06:02 PM

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got these sitting inthe shed, diamond racing 13x8 with hoosier r6s on em
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1329782538
and here is a pic of the incomplete setup during testing stage
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1329782538

RedTurboMiata 02-20-2012 07:40 PM

sorry, i was not trying to come off as a ahole. and megasquirt is around 800new, or you can pick them up for 300-600 used

flying_solo 02-21-2012 09:09 AM

you know, I struggle putting $5000 - $6000 in mods to a car that I got for $5000 as well. What I did come to realize is these miatas are worth almost as much in pieces. If I trash it a the track I pull off whatever isn't wrapped around a tree and either put it on the next miata or part out and recoup a lot of my cost.

So, that's my theory, check back in a few years and I'll let you know how it worked out :P

flying_solo 02-21-2012 09:11 AM

BTW Props for doing what you're doing for so little. Awesome

sixshooter 02-21-2012 01:45 PM

I think my MS1 was $450 used or something like that. I can control timing and fuel with it. And it will be worth ~$450 if I ever sell it. I get tons of flack from buddies with fancier cars about being cheap but I wear it as a badge of honor. I want to do more for less dough at every step. So I give you props for doing the most you can with less. I think it is worthy of respect.

Dirtyturbo 02-21-2012 05:32 PM

Thanks guys.... BTW dont know if i mentioned this is my daily driver by choice. I got a v8 mountaineer parked in the driveway cus i enjoy driving the miata... I live in MI so it sees all 4 seasons and yes i drive it in the snow also.. I bought the car last march so im pretty happy with the progress... The dirty turbo setup will live on for now cus the next few steps are clutch/flywheel combo (has an aftermarket clutch that holds the power but i didnt put it in myself so i dont trust it) And im gona go nuts with brakes, suspension and frame bracing this summer.

Anyone run the tien flex?? I used to autocross with a guy who ran that setup and for a non turbo car he could hang really well... On my last build i used tokico illuminas, race springs, rb sways and adjustable links and a bunch of fm frame bracing. Never quite dialed it in but found the new owner at an autox over the summer in my old car and he was dominating the ssm class... still running the same setup...

RedTurboMiata 02-21-2012 05:46 PM

here is a very good thread made by track about his custom suspension. would help your budget out if you went this direction over a premade setup like vmaxx or tein's
https://www.miataforumz.com/suspension-31/soon-suspension-suggestions-396/

Dirtyturbo 02-22-2012 06:05 PM

Thanks alot for that link... Ton of good info in there... will definetly be reading all through that a second time before i make any decisions..
Ur right on the $$ aspect.. i could definetly put something together for much cheaper than a premade setup, just gotta have a lil patience and do alot of research before i start throwing money at it. I do plan on weekend warrior autoxing and roadcoursing it so i want to get it right. My last build i spent alot of money on the suspension but couldnt ever get it dialed in... It was just a tail happy boost happy beast.

Track 02-22-2012 06:07 PM

There is a couple of those threads, here is another one:

https://www.miataforumz.com/suspension-31/recommended-upgrade-msm-bilsteins-678/

Dirtyturbo 02-23-2012 06:23 PM

Kewl thanks once again... If my new turbo gets here 2marro through the blizzard we are bout to get hit with ill be posting pics of the setup along with some exterior shots for those of you looking for them...

flying_solo 02-23-2012 06:40 PM

it's hitting the opposite side right now man, but it isn't too bad.

Dirtyturbo 02-28-2012 06:37 PM

UPDATE: Im pissed. Guess this motor has just had enough :( Thought it was the turbo causing the smoking issue.. i was wrong. Dont turbo your 120k motor without going through it. It runs and drives but its smoking under boost and litterally blowing oil out of the motor all over the engine bay. I just did a headgasket like 3 weeks ago but didnt have the head resurfaced and it must be warped. Along with possible piston rings or valve seals are bad. Only smokes and shoots oil under boost but its a flippin turbo car so its time for a new motor.

Not sure what all im gona put in this motor yet, going with a 1.6 im pickin it up thursday.. ill tear it down take some measurements and see where im at.
May just regasket the whole thing if all the tolerences are on and dump it in.

Gona buy a new turbo mani cus the one i got keeps spitting out gaskets. Also gona put the 20g compressor and housing on the new turbo. stupid new 16g is weaksauce and im not having it.

I should be posting the pics i took of the setup but now its gona wait until i start putting the new motor together. There goes my budget build.... so pissed right now :( Gona have to wait on suspension but im just gona get the fm happy meal clutch for this one before it goes in. Atleast when im done i wont have some scetchy previously turboed motor in it. Guess thats why i got the car for $2100 with a hardtop

RedTurboMiata 02-28-2012 07:26 PM

your making me nervous, mine has 176k on the clock.

flying_solo 02-28-2012 09:40 PM

MOAR BOOST. Sucks there was a guy that just sold a built 1.6L for cheap on here.

RedTurboMiata 02-28-2012 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by flying_solo (Post 13009)
MOAR BOOST. Sucks there was a guy that just sold a built 1.6L for cheap on here.

yea 1200, missed a deal for sure

Dirtyturbo 02-29-2012 06:23 PM

Well this motor was turbo once upon a time before i bought the car... I found the oil drian tube bung welded to the oil pan after i bought it... i compression tested it and it all checked out but i dunno the full history of the motor... Picking up one with 80k on it 2marr0 $300...

I put a custom dual setup on there today thinking maybe it was just all the oil in the glass pack in the muffler still burning out.. no go...still smoking... not so bad but a lil puff right after i boost then shift then when i hit it again i get a lil puff...


I think its excessive blowby...
I have a pretty steady smoke stream coming out of the crankcase vent tube that used to run to the intake tube.. i have a lil filter on it and its steady blowing smoke out of it.... anyone know? im pretty sure its excessive blowby... I just wanna be for sure before i go putting the new motor in it..

Ill post some pics of the setup tomorrow if i can remeber to bring the camera home.. i just gota pick out tips for the new exhaust and tweak one tail pipe and thats done too...

Dirtyturbo 02-29-2012 08:50 PM

Ok.... Me happy! No more smoke... New muffler worked... Old one must've been saturated along with the rest of my exhaust.:) took about a 20 min highway run under full boost to get it hot enough to burn the rest of the pipes before the muffler but alls good now... And I dunno if turbos have a break in period but this sucker is pullin hard now! I ran the crank vent tube out the wheel well so I can forget about the blowby for now.. Still pickin up the newish motor tomorrow but now I can take my time and build it proper.

So for sure I'll get the nice shiney tips on my new custom dual seup and put the other wheels on and post some pics now that I don't want to burn it to the ground lol! And ya ya I need to do some heat shielding around the turbo and cut vents my hood but I wanted to get the major stuff worked out first. LI'm saying this preemptively cus I know someone is gona give me isht over. it.

RedTurboMiata 02-29-2012 09:00 PM

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my recommendation for vents z34 Chevy Lumina hood vents, they are aluminum so they wont melt, and they look good too.
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330570819

Dirtyturbo 03-01-2012 07:51 PM

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Ok so here goes with some pics finally... sorry the whole car shots were in the dark... i work all day.. ill try to get some better ones this sunday when im off...

First up my dirty engine bay and setup
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330653101

here are some shots of my custom dual setup i finished today.. custom bent from the dp back, gorlick xcelerator race series transverse muffler and some random tips that i liked that i pulled out of the scrap bin lol!
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330653101
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330653101

And heres a few of the car from the outside taken in a parking garage.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...IMG_2477-1.jpg
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Enjoy... ill try to get some daylight shots soon...

flying_solo 03-01-2012 09:57 PM

I'm a fan of the dual tips. Looks good. I wanna hear it.

Dirtyturbo 03-04-2012 10:48 AM

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Ok gonna try and jam it all in oMne post... pics and all. So here goes.
Purchased car in march of 2011. Mods to date.. Ebay turbo kit, fmic, obx dp and fmu, turbonetics blow off valve, msd retarded boost box, hard dog roll bar, Custom bent dual exhaust and i/c piping by me, falken azenis to grip the road. Swapped blowd up 20g turbo for a 16g. Currently running 12psi no clue on hp #s though.

Money invested in car including new turbo= about $4300

Upcoming mods:fm happy meal clutch kit, brakes all around, picking up a new engine this wee($300 not sure what im doing with it yet)

In the not to distant future plans: full suspension and frame bracing, wanna do some racing this summer!

So heres the car when i bought it
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
After a lil paint and a roll bar
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
The turbo kit
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
The teardown
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
The initial setup for testing
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
How she looked at that point
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
With the second hood i bought for cutting up for turbo flow(havent done yet)
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
My oops with out running a restrictor to the 20g
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
New 16g turbo installed
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
Another oops with dinosaurs busting out!
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
Doin duals
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
my parking garage shots
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
And some current shots, true to its form an ugly 20yr old michigan daily driver
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1330879692

Track 03-04-2012 10:59 AM

oh man, I love what you did there with the dinosaurs lol.

This month's feature could be a difficult one!

RedTurboMiata 03-04-2012 11:06 AM

hey i noticed something, did you hook the breather tube up into the charge piping the way it was stock. the one that goes across the front of the engine?

Dirtyturbo 03-04-2012 11:49 AM

Ya dinosaurs make everything better!

An red no i didnt, its vta right now..

RedTurboMiata 03-04-2012 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Dirtyturbo (Post 13326)
Ya dinosaurs make everything better!

An red no i didnt, its vta right now..

ok good, that would cause you a big headache at some point

Dirtyturbo 03-08-2012 07:14 PM

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Ok so heres whats going on next. Prolly gona tear it down this week, regasket everything, and stuff her in by the end of the month... I really want to get some kind of clutch though since its apart.. just hoping i come up with the cash before its time to stuff it in.

https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1331255657

Dirtyturbo 03-12-2012 06:20 PM

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So here we go... my engine is done.. went cruising with dem and when we met i said im gona blow her up today and sure as isht wasnt 20 min later trying to keep up with that beast and now i have a 3 cylinder master smoke screen layer lol! So heres the new old engine.. was getting ready to tear it down to go through it today but we got a lil busy at work. But im just gona go through and do the old regasket everything trick. My buddy says hes got a set of total seal piston rings brand new in the box i can have and im prolly just gona put an act stage II clutch in her while im at it.. shooting to have it all done and in by the end of the month..

https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1331594404

flying_solo 03-13-2012 09:53 AM

Make Dem swap cars with you for a week for pressuring you into killing your baby. I bet he has it rebuilt, repainted, and pushing 100 lbs of boost before he gives it back.

Dirtyturbo 03-13-2012 05:35 PM

Thats not a bad idea! Its better it died now though cus now ill have a fresh engine/clutch setup and i wont have to worry about it all summer.. rather now than in the middle of an autox or track day ya know.. ill have her back up in a few weeks and then its on to suspension build and frame bracing... cus another thing i realized when riding in dems beast is man my 20 yr old stock suspension is all slopped out!

flying_solo 03-14-2012 09:18 AM

I recommend a coolant reroute while you have the engine out. Don't try like me to put it on while it's in the car.

Dirtyturbo 03-14-2012 07:01 PM

Good call... you got a link to a thread to how its done?

flying_solo 03-16-2012 10:19 AM

MiataTurbo has several threads on how to do a budget reroute with Kia Neck and proper hoses. They even have the part #s. I went with the M-Tuned Kit from 949 because I a lazy and a fabrication moron. I can't recall the exact one. Many folks buy just part of the Begi Coolant reroute and do the rest themselves. Probably your best bet as you have skills.

from google type this into search: site:miataturbo.net coolant re-route OR reroute AND kia

You will get all the threads indexed much better than the crappy forum indexing.


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