pull motor or remove with subframe
 

I have read a couple of articles about pulling a motor and removing subframe at the same time
If you are going to replace the engine and transmaission as well as the subframe,would you do all of it together or would you still break them apart
Add to this what height do you need to clear the motor and all if you did it in one piece
If only doing one or the other then I would not pull the engine with subframe but since I am thought I would ask

I have never pulled a motor, but i believe if i were going to pull the motor and the subframe i would do it in 2 pieces. pull motor, jack car up higher and drop the subframe. but thats just my two cents :sign0134:

Don't know. never done it, but I would pull them separately.

i look at it this way, when you drop the motor with the subframe you have to be able clear the bottom of the car with the entire thing. pulling it you dont have to worry about not having enough room to roll the subframe out from underneath the car.

Actually a member on here has done this...

https://www.miataforumz.com/showthre...motor+subframe

I might be easier to pull the engine or the engine & Trans out of the engine bay than to lift the entire car and slide the subframe and engine out of the bottom.

I know my son and I pulled the engine out using a normal engine hoist to do it. We did unbolt the bell housing from the back of the engine

Thanks for the replies
Think I will go with doing it in two parts
Now the second part of this,I have pulled a lot of engines with the trans attached and with it broke apart at he bell housing .Is there enough room to pull engine and trans as a complete unit or do they have to come apart

^yes, you can pull them together.

You can pull them together if you have a way of changing the angle of the engine+trans. For the oil pan to clear you need to be able to angle it pretty good.

and it was really friggin easy too
me and a buddy literally did it in an afternoon
and that was motor rear subframe, it was everything mechanical
and it was my first motor pull

but to do it like this you would probably need to pull the bumper and radiator to give the motor more clearance

that is what i did but i was tearing the entire car down anyways

now since you have already chosen the other path i will say that most people have told me it is easier to pull the motor with the tranny when removing from above