Rear visibility in my 96 with the Hardcore wasn't too bad, but a double hoop would be better. Installation is very similar to the Hardcore I previously installed, so I'm not worried about that.
Track, PM me your plans for the weekend please. Depending on your schedule, I may be able to meet up. Thanks! |
they both get the job done, just depends on price and what you think looks better. I chose Hard Dog for those reasons
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Originally Posted by RussellT94
(Post 1819)
Rear visibility in my 96 with the Hardcore wasn't too bad, but a double hoop would be better. Installation is very similar to the Hardcore I previously installed, so I'm not worried about that.
Track, PM me your plans for the weekend please. Depending on your schedule, I may be able to meet up. Thanks! |
Get the Hard Dog Hard Core Double Diagonal. It has 6 points for mounting and has decent visibility out the back. If you plan on doing any SCCA events the double-hoop design will not pass tech inspection.
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Bossfrog is actually just north of me. The few installs I've seen them do with their clearview and harness bars are cleeeeeeaaan! Looked almost oem in the car. When I get mine I'm driving up there to have them install it.
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Originally Posted by RavynX
(Post 2708)
Get the Hard Dog Hard Core Double Diagonal. It has 6 points for mounting and has decent visibility out the back. If you plan on doing any SCCA events the double-hoop design will not pass tech inspection.
Thanks for the advice, but that wasn't one of the options listed. I had a hardcore double diagonal in the past, and want something different now. AFAIK, none of the Hard Dog bars come with a letter from a PE, Boss Frog does. http://www.bossfrog.biz/pdf/BF.Double.Hoop.Testing.pdf |
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Originally Posted by RussellT94
(Post 2954)
Thanks for the advice, but that wasn't one of the options listed. I had a hardcore double diagonal in the past, and want something different now. AFAIK, none of the Hard Dog bars come with a letter from a PE, Boss Frog does. http://www.bossfrog.biz/pdf/BF.Double.Hoop.Testing.pdf
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1313546893 |
Originally Posted by RavynX
(Post 2966)
Well if you're just going for looks then it really doesn't matter which one you get; it would boil down to just personal preference and which one would clear the top of your head better. Interesting how they got a Mechanical Engineer (not necessarily a PE) to test it out. I still trust real world results more compared to an engineer's calculations & tests not done in the actual car. It's real world results like the photo below that get me to purchase their equipment. I would stick with the Hard Dog (Ace in your case, since that's the only option) but that's also partially because I'm not a fan of the BossFrog Double Maxx design.
https://www.miataforumz.com/attachme...ine=1313546893 If you go to a track day with a Track Dog bar, what documentation can you provide that the bar meets SCCA requirements? Boss Frog compares their bar to the SCCA requirements here http://www.bossfrog.biz/pdf/BF.Doubl...nformation.pdf . I was not able to find similar information for Track Dog bars. |
Originally Posted by RavynX
(Post 2708)
Get the Hard Dog Hard Core Double Diagonal. It has 6 points for mounting and has decent visibility out the back. If you plan on doing any SCCA events the double-hoop design will not pass tech inspection.
The boss frog double is effectively a single hoop for each passenger. |
Originally Posted by RussellT94
(Post 2968)
The very first post in this thread says I intend to go to the occasional track day, the bar is not for cosmetics.
If you go to a track day with a Track Dog bar, what documentation can you provide that the bar meets SCCA requirements? Boss Frog compares their bar to the SCCA requirements here http://www.bossfrog.biz/pdf/BF.Doubl...nformation.pdf . I was not able to find similar information for Track Dog bars.
Originally Posted by Track
(Post 2969)
Not true and not true. Its 4 points mounting and I have passed a combined NASA+SCCA tech with the boss frog double. THSCC runs the more stringent regulation of the two, especially when it comes to convertibles. I passed tech like normal and the event steward saw my double and didn't have a problem with it.
The boss frog double is effectively a single hoop for each passenger. It seems like I was misinformed about the Boss Frog not passing SCCA inspection. I will see if I can find that documentation again that my friend pointed out but I would not want to be caught rolling over a barricade with a double-hoop design. This is why I haven't pushed my S2000 on the track and I keep the Miata strictly as my track car. |
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