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10-04-2011, 02:25 PM
#61
BAMFr
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NC
Posts: 1,787
First, let me go ahead and say that I don't drag and could care less about building a drag motor. on the track, hands down, a turbo will be better. you won't even be below 3.5k rpms at anytime once you are comfortable downshifting (occassionally you may short-shift, but rarely will it put you below 3.5k rpms)
their torque curves are almost identical from 4k-5.5k rpms.
So the NA car has an advantage from a Dig, thats about all I see out of that. if anything top end grunt goes to the turbo, which maintains torque all the way through 7k rpms, while the NA is dropping quickly after 5.5k.
their torque curves are almost identical from 4k-5.5k rpms.
So the NA car has an advantage from a Dig, thats about all I see out of that. if anything top end grunt goes to the turbo, which maintains torque all the way through 7k rpms, while the NA is dropping quickly after 5.5k.
10-04-2011, 03:07 PM
#62
MFz Lurker
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 10
Can you give more details on that turbo setup?
It looks like the that N/A car has more torque for about 1000rpms. I don't drag, but I would assume that the only time you are between 3k-4k would be in your first gear in a drag race.
I still believe that you can build a turbo car that will have better low end torque then any N/A or supercharged motor as long as you are not shooting for more then 200hp.
It looks like the that N/A car has more torque for about 1000rpms. I don't drag, but I would assume that the only time you are between 3k-4k would be in your first gear in a drag race.
I still believe that you can build a turbo car that will have better low end torque then any N/A or supercharged motor as long as you are not shooting for more then 200hp.
T3 Super 60 .42/.48
8 psi boost
18" intercooler
Bipes ACU
305cc injectors
K&N filter
BEGI 2.5" downpipe
Borla 2.25" exhaust
Falken tires
93 pump gas
That's all I know about the car.
10-04-2011, 05:17 PM
#63
MFz Lurker
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 10
Yes, with the curves we see you could shift the N/A at 5600 and the turbo at 6500 (the HP peak RPMs) and both drop into 150 ft-lbs at or above 4,000 RPM with Miata 5-speed gearing.
This race would probably come down to wheelspin at launch, the first gear acceleration advantage of the N/A car for a brief time, and the slightly higher speed the better HP in top gear would allow the turbo car to carry into the traps.
None of them would be huge advantages for either car so I think it would be a very competitive race.
This race would probably come down to wheelspin at launch, the first gear acceleration advantage of the N/A car for a brief time, and the slightly higher speed the better HP in top gear would allow the turbo car to carry into the traps.
None of them would be huge advantages for either car so I think it would be a very competitive race.
10-05-2011, 09:50 AM
#64
Dude, thats a REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY old setup you are quoting from 2006 -- But thanks for visiting my cardomain site.
Stop bench racing.
I'll declare that the turbo setup will beat your 150rwhp in every race expect an autox. Even my 300rwhp turbo running a measly 170rwhp.
and wheelspin? I don't drive like a ******. I would shift at 7300RPM regardless of the power curve drop offline, and you can shift at 5600RPM and get even further behind.
here's my setup now at the same peak power level (red dashes):
Stop bench racing.
I'll declare that the turbo setup will beat your 150rwhp in every race expect an autox. Even my 300rwhp turbo running a measly 170rwhp.
and wheelspin? I don't drive like a ******. I would shift at 7300RPM regardless of the power curve drop offline, and you can shift at 5600RPM and get even further behind.
here's my setup now at the same peak power level (red dashes):
10-05-2011, 10:00 AM
#65
oh no, this turbo setup had more area under curve than this turbo setup:
but the red one will just wheelspin...
but also, this will be impossible to race, because it's the exact same car; just different turbos.
but the red one will just wheelspin...
but also, this will be impossible to race, because it's the exact same car; just different turbos.
