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Old 11-06-2011, 09:01 PM   #11
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I had considered doing it in two parts as It looked like you broke th emotor and trans apart .After going back and pausing and doing a slow mo of it I see you left the motor and trans intact
How high did you have to raise it and did you have the jack under the sub frame itself
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:19 PM   #12
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well i used one jack on the subframe itself and one on the rear of the trannny

but now that i have had to move themotor around a few times
i learned that you can just use one jace on the oil pan and the very rear of the motor and everything will be fairly balanced. i just didnt do that at first because i didnt know it the oil pan could bear all that weight. now when i put the jack on the oil pan i first put a 12x12x1/2 inch piece of particle board on top of the jack to better distribute the weight across the oil pan and have had no problems.
I am pretty sure that is the location the guy in the video i posted used
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Old 11-07-2011, 12:25 PM   #13
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Pulling the engine without the transmission is one of biggest mistakes I've ever done wrenching on my car.

If I was already planning on pulling the motor and dropping the subframe, I might as well do it in one shebang, like in jared's video.
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Old 11-07-2011, 12:32 PM   #14
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Absolutely, pull the engine and transmission as one unit. The only hard part is getting the chassis high enough so that the tail of the transmission will make the turn around the fire wall. Some decent jack stands will do the trick.

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Pulling the engine without the transmission is one of biggest mistakes I've ever done wrenching on my car.

If I was already planning on pulling the motor and dropping the subframe, I might as well do it in one shebang, like in jared's video.
And I have always found it easier to pull the motor without the transmission, especially if I am changing the clutch.

I will, however try the dropped sub frame way if the opportunity arises.
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Old 11-07-2011, 03:32 PM   #16
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Frt-fun has done me well on this .It already has newer clutch and all the pieces that go with it. I did not ask but take he did seals and pilot bearing at same time were done
Even if I was doing a two part pull I would still pull the motor and trans together.Just wanted to be sure that it could be done
In some cars they will not come out together
I think the boys could hold the front up high enough to roll everything out from under it. They are big strong men and think they can hold it up.
I know one of them when he works with the japanese on a piece of equip. They are always yelling too much tight too much tight. you need to go eek eek not humph hmph
It will make you get on the floor laughing. There will be three or four of them with a big bar prying a piece of equip over and he will go over and just start pushing it
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:31 PM   #17
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I have done both methods and can say that if you are just doing a motor swap then engine and trans out the top is easier to do. Pull them as a unit and install the same way.
That said, if you have a lift, I pulled the entire front subframe engine and trans out, swapped over the suspension to the Boss Frog sub, installed it and had the car pushed back onto the trailer in 3 hours.
WIth the LS and 6 speed I can break down the accessories and mounts, remove the radiator, remove the headers, and pull the V-8 and trans in an hour. Installing the engine/trans can be done in 10 minutes by myself and then install the rest within the same hour. I have done it too many times already to make sure I had clearence for everything. This is done without jackstands and just a floor jack under the car to get the trans on the cross member.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:42 PM   #18
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Drop the sway and pull them together, I do this all the time. On my car with the fat reroute on the back I have to either drop the sway or install without the head.
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Appreciate the responses ,due to some delays I may start on it next week
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