Off Topic Discussion Anything goes in here! Well, almost!

Ramble On & on & on & on

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-13-2011, 10:28 PM
  #131  
MFz Regular
 
Dntlift's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Charlotte
Posts: 248
Default

Originally Posted by Track
^ Touche. I haven't really driven an NA in a while, I might have to get my hands on an NA6 and see how the original miata drove. Without parts conversions, the NB is such a nicer track car from what I have seen so far. Its convinced me to make my NB a track car rather than wait and get an NA.
I havent really driven mch of the newer miatas, but Im a much bigger fan of the NA's. I dont know what it is, I like the way they look more, the simplicity that they have. ect.
Dntlift is offline  
Old 10-13-2011, 10:37 PM
  #132  
BAMFr
 
Track's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NC
Posts: 1,787
Default

Originally Posted by Dntlift
I havent really driven mch of the newer miatas, but Im a much bigger fan of the NA's. I dont know what it is, I like the way they look more, the simplicity that they have. ect.
yea well, let me tell you if the NB got any simpler (other than emissions), it wouldn't drive.

my engine bay could fit a child in it its so empty now. There is a giant hole around my exhaust manifold thats crying "TURBO ME".

I will drive an NA6 one day! Just not this weekend.
Track is offline  
Old 10-14-2011, 12:03 AM
  #133  
MFz Regular
 
dieselmiata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Chicago. (From Austin TX!)
Posts: 540
Default

From my experience, the NA and NB are pretty much the same car, with more cosmetic changes than structural or mechanical.
dieselmiata is offline  
Old 10-14-2011, 12:06 AM
  #134  
MFz Lurker
 
nannerpus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 6
Default

There are few driving experiences for which I'd trade my NA, but NBs feel considerably more composed. "Buttoned down," as a dude put it.

Also South TX hollabackgirl
nannerpus is offline  
Old 10-14-2011, 03:02 AM
  #135  
zoomzoom
 
FRT_Fun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Arizona
Posts: 924
Default

Originally Posted by nannerpus
Also South TX hollabackgirl
holllllllaaaaaa

Post up some pics in the NA section brah!
FRT_Fun is offline  
Old 10-14-2011, 02:37 PM
  #136  
MFz Regular
 
Dntlift's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Charlotte
Posts: 248
Default

Originally Posted by Track
yea well, let me tell you if the NB got any simpler (other than emissions), it wouldn't drive.

my engine bay could fit a child in it its so empty now. There is a giant hole around my exhaust manifold thats crying "TURBO ME".

I will drive an NA6 one day! Just not this weekend.
Likewise, with no EGR here.

Mines crying turbo me too, soon enough! soon enough.
Dntlift is offline  
Old 10-14-2011, 02:55 PM
  #137  
BAMFr
 
Track's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NC
Posts: 1,787
Default

so after reading some more about the NA6, I think there is two things to do to get your NB/1.8NA to handle and feel like the original. Or atleast get close:

1) induce more oversteer. original NA had an FRC of 55%, the NB has 63%.
2) move to the 1.6L flywheel and clutch for increadible engine response.

Thats it, if you do those two, you will have the NA6+~30hp. Atleast thats all the difference I noticed, weight is there of course, but 100-150 lbs more is nothing when you add 30% power. And for the handling case, stiffer springs will easily make up for the increased body roll. oh wait, the NB already HAS stiffer springs...
Track is offline  
Old 10-14-2011, 09:05 PM
  #138  
MFz Regular
 
Tallgeese's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Key West
Posts: 191
Default

It's way more than 100-150lbs difference. The 1.6 tub is already 100+lbs lighter than the NA 1.8 and some NB's tip the scales at over 2600lbs.

And of course my favorite part, CHEAP turbo parts

You can keep your silly, pig heavy NB's
Tallgeese is offline  
Old 10-15-2011, 12:34 AM
  #139  
zoomzoom
 
FRT_Fun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Arizona
Posts: 924
Default

Love the NB for a cruiser. If I tracked or did anything requiring precision, NA is where I'd be.

Eventually I will get another NA. But not until the NB gets to where I want it.
FRT_Fun is offline  
Old 10-15-2011, 04:41 PM
  #140  
BAMFr
 
Track's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NC
Posts: 1,787
Default

Originally Posted by FRT_Fun
Love the NB for a cruiser. If I tracked or did anything requiring precision, NA is where I'd be.

Eventually I will get another NA. But not until the NB gets to where I want it.
I disagree with the slight implication that the NB can't be a precise car. the lack of precision in the NB is all in a slightly tweeked motion ratio, spring rates, and sway bars compared to the NA8/NA6.

With that said, the weight difference is also there, but minor if anything.
Track is offline  



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:04 AM.